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TrustInYHWH

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posted 09-23-1998 12:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TrustInYHWH     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
"Jewish World Review / September 23, 1998 / 3 Tishrei, 5759

Paul Greenberg

The demolition of meaning

FOR THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN WATCHING Bill Clinton give slippery answers for decades now, his just-released video will provide no surprises. It's the same old clinton clauses refined to the point of absurdity, if not beyond. What may once have been maddening now has become simply surreal.

Lonesco has nothing on this boy. And, as in the theater of the absurd, the only appropriate response may be laughter, even delight. Indignation long ago gave way to almost a kind of admiration for this president's way with truth; he can turn it every which way but loose.

Bill Clinton's lawyer may have been in the room when he testified before the grand jury, but his long-time counselor, his alter ego, his now grizzled guide past the shoals of candor, remains our familiar old friend Slick Willie.

By now Slick has expanded the ordinary old clinton clause into an entire language. The thing has metastasized into a structure as complex and nuanced as George Orwell's carefully constructed Newspeak in 1984.

After listening to all the president's lawyers, and all the talking lawheads parse the language into meaninglessness, one appreciates anew why poor Winston Smith, after all those years at the Ministry of Truth, would conclude: If there is hope it lies in the proles. For they still speak the language that our leaders, our intellectuals, our scholars, seem to have surmounted.

Can there be any doubt who deserves this year's Doublespeak Award? Bill Clinton ought to retire it on the basis of this year's performance alone. (Define alone.)

The object of the whole, clintonesque endeavor remains the same: to lie without exactly, legally, technically lying. For can there be an adult of medium sound mind in this country who still believes that our president has told the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth? But does the phrase mean anything any more? For now even Bill Clinton has testified that he sought to keep his affair with Miss Lewinsky secret when he testified about it under oath. Excuse me, his inappropriate intimate contact with Miss Lewinsky.

This latest, four-hour exercise in equivocation isn't likely to have 'em lined up at the video stores. Because it's not news. Because the president's way with words is familiar by now.

But for aficionados of clintonspeak, there are some delicious moments in this video as the president outdoes even himself at verbal elasticity. Define "alone." Define "is.'' What next, define "Wednesday''?

Words tend to mean just what this witness intends them to mean when he intends them to mean it. Lewis Carroll's Humpty Dumpty has now been incarnated as the 42nd president of the United States. Sometimes his words mean what they mean to the rest of us, as in his opening statement: "When I was alone with Ms. Lewinsky on certain occasions. ...'' At other times, he and Ms. Lewinsky were not alone because there were other people in the White House, or maybe on the planet.

At one point, our articulate president seems to be having a problem with the simplest of verbs. Indeed, he can sound like a coffee-house existentialist: "It depends on what the meaning of the word is, is.''

But on one question Bill Clinton is dead certain: He never told Monica Lewinsky to lie. Nor did he have to. Just as Richard Nixon never had to take John Dean aside and say, "John, let's you and I go out there and commit a little perjury and obstruction of justice.'' Some things were understood. The cover story had been worked out.

Bill Clinton and Monica Lewinsky had worked out their story, too. And it might have held if Miss Monica hadn't been impelled to talk to her friends, her mother and apparently everybody in earshot. There are some people who just can't conspire straight. Is her story more funny or sad? Mainly, it's just young. Not to say infantile.

Bill Clinton didn't tell Betty Currie to lie, either. He just called her into his office the very next day after his testimony in the Paula Jones case in order to refresh his memory. And how does he do it? By recounting a story he had to know was false. Why, sure. Isn't that how we all refresh our memory?

Here's how Betty Currie remembers that conversation: "He proceeded to make a series of statements, one right after the other: 'You were always there when she was there, right?' 'Monica came on to me, and I never touched her, right?' 'You can see and hear everything, right'?''

If all that is right, what could be wrong? And is there any difference any more?

If one takes the president's testimony seriously -- a monumental feat -- what do words like alone, is, right or wrong mean anymore? And does anybody care? How is it possible to care when the whole subject is obsessed about 24 hours a day? If only Richard Nixon could have made Watergate a meaningless bore, he might have served out his term.

Various lawyers and politicians now have just about succeeded in explaining that this is only about law and politics -- realms in which the ordinary meaning of words no longer hold. Like the ruble and the rupiah, words become another devalued currency. They can no longer be held to a single standard; their meaning has been allowed to float.

This president's language isn't just an invitation to cynicism; it's a coronation. It is language at last freed from its always tenuous moorings in thought.

Richard Weaver saw it coming. He warned us that modern man's weariness with words, his sense of moral helplessness, stems from the "failure to insist upon no compromise in definition.''

The corruption of man, as Emerson wrote, leads to the corruption of language. And the corruption of language, Orwell foresaw, would lead to the further corruption of man.

Until at last we will all find ourselves in something like the verbal bog that is Bill Clinton's sworn testimony. It is worse than a succession of lies; at least lies would be identifiable, traceable, arguable. But this hodgepodge is just a jumble without any clear purpose except to beat the rap. A simple, honest lie would be a step up.

The national discourse is now being conducted post-English. There is a Gresham's Law in these matters as bad language drives out the good.

After a decade or two of deconstruction, we seem to have reduced language to only useful signs, as the semioticians say. Their meaning, if any, depends on whatever use we wish to put them to today. Just what do the following phrases mean, if anything? "I did not have sexual relations with that woman. ... It depends on what the meaning of the word is, is. ...

Define alone?

Bill Clinton knows very well what "alone'' means; he may be the most alone of all men, for he seems to have a language all his own.

©1998, Los Angeles Times Syndicate"

Clinton the great orator and redefiner of language...

NOW...
"Timothy I 4:1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
Timothy I 4:2 SPEAKING LIES in HYPOCRISY; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;

Peter II 2:10 But chiefly them that WALK AFTER THE FLESH IN THE LUST OF UNCLEANNESS, and despise government. Presumptuous are they, selfwilled, they are NOT AFRAID TO SPEAK EVIL of dignities.
Peter II 2:12 But these, as natural brute beasts, made to be taken and destroyed, SPEAK EVIL of the things that they understand not; and shall utterly perish in their own corruption;
Peter II 2:13 And shall receive the reward of unrighteousness, as they that count it pleasure to riot in the day time. Spots they are and blemishes, sporting themselves with their own DECEIVINGS while they feast with you;
Peter II 2:14 Having eyes full of ADULTERY, and that CANNOT CEASE FROM SIN; beguiling unstable souls: an heart they have exercised with covetous practices; cursed children:
Peter II 2:15 Which have forsaken the right way, and are gone astray, following the way of Balaam the son of Bosor, who loved the wages of unrighteousness;
Peter II 2:16 But was rebuked for his iniquity: the DUMB ASS SPEAKING with man's voice forbad the madness of the prophet.
Peter II 2:18 For when they SPEAK GREAT SWELLING WORDS of vanity, they allure through the lusts of the flesh, through much wantonness, those that were clean escaped from them who live in error.
Peter II 2:19 While they promise them liberty, they themselves are the servants of corruption: for of whom a man is overcome, of the same is he brought in bondage.
Revelation 13:3 And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.
Revelation 13:4 And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?
Revelation 13:5 And there was given unto him a MOUTH SPEAKING GREAT THINGS AND BLASPHEMIES; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.
Revelation 13:6 And he OPENED HIS MOUTH in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.
Revelation 13:7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and TONGUES, and nations."

NOW I KNOW THAT SOME OF THIS STUFF MAY BE OUT OF CONTEXT, BUT IF I DIDN'T KNOW BETTER....

I'd say prophecy is being fulfilled right before our eyes.

...BUT I KNOW BETTER. I hope. Shalom.

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Lee

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posted 09-25-1998 01:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lee   Click Here to Email Lee     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Hello TrustInYHWH,
I'm not sure if I understood what you meant when you said:

NOW I KNOW THAT SOME OF THIS STUFF MAY BE OUT OF CONTEXT, BUT IF I DIDN'T KNOW BETTER....
I'd say prophecy is being fulfilled right before our eyes.
...BUT I KNOW BETTER. I hope. Shalom.

Can you define for me:
NOW? Does that mean when you typed it or when I read it?
Some? Which part/s do you mean?
Stuff? Seems too general.
May? The month or a possibility?
Be? If spoken could be, be, bee, b, B.
Out? Very confusing without a reference point.
Better? Same as out.
Context? Is that in reference to your statement or my thoughts?

And last but not least, define "if".

Trying to communicate can be very confusing without agreement on the meaning of words.
Can you try to be more specific in the furure.

Lee
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TrustInYHWH

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posted 09-26-1998 09:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for TrustInYHWH     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
I mean that I realize that some of these scriptural verses may be out of context. I wanted anyone reading this post to understand that I know this. I wanted to overt a long discussion about accuracy and focus on the meaning of these scriptures as they apply to Bill Clinton and company. Thanks for your post, I hope this clarifies. Shalom.

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posted 10-01-1998 03:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Seeker   Click Here to Email Seeker     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
For those of us grounded in Truth, the words and behavior of Clinton, ever since he burst on the scene in 1992 have been troubling, to say the least.
But, what has transpired since January, where He has been caught "red handed", and still has the approval of 60+% of the people is possibly prophetic. The whole world is "wondering after him". He has taken over by flatteries, especially with women. He is by his own "sort of" admission a liar (who is his father then). There seems to be a spiritual hold he has over a majority of people which cannot be explained logically.
We would be well advised to watch this man and those around him.

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