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Jose Cadena

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posted 09-19-1998 04:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jose Cadena   Click Here to Email Jose Cadena     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Neither the wise Daniel paid attention to the 23 years!

Certainly enough, around the world many people are aware of the presence of numbers such as 7, 40, 70, 430, 666; but not body, except GOD, has considered the 23.

What is the importance of this 23 years? Let's see:

At the beginning: Year 1 (Yeremiah 1)

quote:
1 The words of Jeremiah the son of Hilkiah, of the priests that were in Anathoth in the land of Benjamin: 2 To whom the word of the LORD came in the days of Josiah the son of Amon king of Judah, in the 13th year of his reign.
3 It came also in the days of Jehoiakim the son of Josiah king of Judah, unto the end of the eleventh year of Zedekiah the son of Josiah king of Judah, unto the carrying away of Jerusalem captive in the fifth month.

At the end: year 23 (Yeremiah):

quote:
1 The word that came to Jeremiah concerning all the people of Judah in the fourth year of Jehoiakim the son of Josiah king of Judah, that was the first year of Nebuchadrezzar king of Babylon; 2 The which Jeremiah the prophet spake unto all the people of Judah, and to all the inhabitants of Jerusalem, saying,
3 From the 13th year of Josiah the son of Amon king of Judah, even unto this day, that is the 23th year, the word of the LORD hath come unto me, and I have spoken unto you, rising early and speaking; but ye have not hearkened.

It is clearly stated: the son of Jacob didn't care about this 23 years. But, what happened then?

Well, it is stated (unto this day) that the end of this 23 years coincides with the 4th year of Jehoiakim and the 1th year of Nebuchadrezzar. Pharaoh Necao had dominion over Canaan, including Judah:

2 Chronicles 36 & 2 Kings 24

quote:
1 Then the people of the land took Jehoahaz the son of Josiah, and made him king in his father's stead in Jerusalem. 2 Jehoahaz was 23 years old when he began to reign, and he reigned three months in Jerusalem. 3 And the king of Egypt put him down at Jerusalem, and condemned the land in an hundred talents of silver and a talent of gold. 4 And the king of Egypt made Eliakim his brother king over Judah and Jerusalem, and turned his name to Jehoiakim. And Necho took Jehoahaz his brother, and carried him to Egypt. 5 Jehoiakim was twenty and five years old when he began to reign, and he reigned 11 years in Jerusalem: and he did that which was evil in the sight of the LORD his God.

The king of Babylon took dominion over Egypt:
quote:
2 Kings 1:7 And the king of Egypt came not again any more out of his land: for the king of Babylon had taken from the river of Egypt unto the river Euphrates all that pertained to the king of Egypt.

So, those nations started paying taxes and serving to Babylon, from the year one of Nebuchadnezzar.

quote:
Daniel 1 In the third year of the reign of Jehoiakim king of Judah came Nebuchadnezzar king of Babylon unto Jerusalem, and besieged it. 2 And the Lord gave Jehoiakim king of Judah into his hand, with part of the vessels of the house of God: which he carried into the land of Shinar to the house of his god; and he brought the vessels into the treasure house of his god.

Note that when Nabuchadnezzar came, Jehoiakim already had ruled, under Necao, more than 3 years (Jeremiah 25:1), but less than 4 years, then he served to Babylonians for 3 years:

quote:
2 King 24:1 In his days Nebuchadnezzar king of Babylon came up, and Jehoiakim became his servant three years: then he turned and rebelled against him.

2 Chron36: 6 Against Jehoiakim came up Nebuchadnezzar king of Babylon, and bound him in fetters, to carry him to Babylon. 7 Nebuchadnezzar also carried of the vessels of the house of the LORD to Babylon, and put them in his temple at Babylon


Jeremiah 52 pinpoints the times when Babylonians carried captives from Judah:

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28 This is the people whom Nebuchadrezzar carried away captive
In the 7th year three thousand Jews and three and twenty.
29 In the 18th year of Nebuchadrezzar he carried away captive from Jerusalem eight hundred thirty and two persons:
30 In the 23th year of Nebuchadrezzar Nebuzaradan the captain of the guard carried away captive of the Jews seven hundred forty and five persons: all the persons were four thousand and six hundred.

So, The Babylonians went in and out of those lands (the biblical record) for 23 years:

At the beginning: they started serving to Babylon. (Jeremiah 25:11)
At the end the land was desolated, without people (Daniel 9:2)

quote:
Jeremiah 25:11 And this whole land shall be a desolation, and an astonishment; and these nations shall serve the king of Babylon seventy years.

These records are clear enough:

At the first year of Nebuchadrezzar the whole land was not a desolation, started only the second part of the promise. But 23 years after, Judah is literally desolated.

Daniel 9:1-3 clearly confesses that he didn't take care of this 23 years

quote:
In the first year of Darius the son of Ahasuerus, of the seed of the Medes, who was made king over the realm of the Chaldeans, in the first year of his reign, I Daniel understood by the books that the number of the years, whereof the word of GOD came to Jeremiah the prophet, for the accomplishment of the desolations of Jerusalem, was seventy years.

Daniel says that he paid attention only to one part of the promise given to Jeremiah: the desolation. He didn't pay attention to the service part, both separated 23 years.

The punishment of the king of Babylon (Daniel 5:30) ended the service period. But still the Yudahim had to wait 23 years for the end of the desolation, which occurred at the first year of the king Cyrus the Persian.

Some archaeologists, historians and scholars say that was Cyrus who took Babylon, and that Darius from Medes was a captain of Cyrus, called Ugbaruh; but Daniel tells us that this Darius was a king of 62 years when took Babylon. Nobody in Persian or Medes could cancel the decree signed by him (6:15), Daniel himself knew that (6:10). He served under Darius and under Cyrus (1:21).


Josiah------- 31 years
......................the 13th year started the calling of GOD
Jehoahaz---- 3 moths
Jehoiakim-- 11 years
......................The 4th year the Jews started paying taxes to Babylon
From the 13th of Josiah till the 4th year of Jehoiakim passed 23 years
Jehoiachim - 3 moths
Zedekiah----11 years
Last captives 4 years: HERE started the desolation
From the 4th year of Jeoiakim to the last group of captives passed 23 years

So that, from Jehoiakim 4th year till the night when the king Belsahar was punished there were 70 years (the service part of the promise). From the time the last group of Judahim was carried away from Judah, being left desolated, till the first year of king Cyrus, there were 70 years.

Any source out of the Bible ignores this 23 years, and sadly the Christians and the Jews have paid no attention to it either, as in the past the Judahim neither paid attention to the 23 years of GOD calling for not punish them. Still HE gave them another 23 years of calling, under Nebuchadnezzar rule, to avoid that the holy city and its temple were destroyed, but the people who were called by his name did not pay attention either.

From the 13th years of the king Josiah to the burning of the temple (Jeremiah 52:12) there were 42 years (6 weeks), 4 years after (the 46th) came the desolation. The King Joaiachim was carried to Babylon at the beginning of king Zedekiah, at the 7th or 8th year of Nebuchadnezzar, so he had been 11 years in prison when the temple was burned, at the 19th year of king Nebuchadnezzar. The power of Babylon passed to king Evil-Merodac, the year 37th of his prison, which mean than Nebuchadnezzar ruled almost 46 years (Jeremiah 52:52:31)

23 years of calling +
23 years Nebuchadnezzer ruling Yudah +
23 Nebuchadnezzar ruling the deported +
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69 years
01 year lose month (I don't have reviewed this year deeply)
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70 years

So, the division of these 70 years seems to reflect the 70 weeks of Daniel 9.

Nothing in the Tanakh is placed randomly (Number 14:33-34). These 70 years are multiplied by 7. There isn't a gap between these years: every 23 is followed by the next 23 years. The first 70 are followed by the next 70 years. The last 70 is followed by the first week of Daniel, and so on. THE TIME OF THE GENTILES is inserted between the 69th and 70th weeks, since GOD provides for everything. The TIME OF THE GENTILE must be similar to the Time of the Law (from the desert to Christ plus the last week of confirmation).

Dear readers, many seem to be wise because they use a lot of knowledge out of the Holy Bible, but truly they are far away of the truth. I invite you to follow the math that GOD gives us in his book. All those analyses and dating that don't consider these 23 years are far from the truth, as their defenders also. I have not invented these numbers, since they have been there long before I was born. Eloahim commissioned an angel to record the years in which the things happened, and so he has testified us in the Bible. In the Old Testament there are more dates that in the New Testament. But most of defender of the Tanakh don't trust in these dates!

The Bible is the unique Scripture that strictly keeps track of the line of time, from Adam to Christ, without leaving a blank gap. Let's follow the time line:

Génesis 5: pinpointed from the begotten day. Génesis 7:11

0000: Adam
0130: Set
0235: Enos
0325: Cainan
0395: Mahalalel
0460: Jared
0622: Enoch
0687: Matusalem
0874: Lamec
1056: Noah
1656: Flood
---------------
1658 Arfaxad (Genesis 11:11-32;21:5; 25:26; 47:8)
1693 Sala
1723 Heber
1757 Peleg
1787 Reu
1819 Serug
1849 Nacor
1878 Tare
1948 Abraham
2048 Isaac
2108 Jacob
2238 Israel enters Egypt

The line is pinpointed during 2.238 since man were begotten, except the points 1.656 and 2.238, but their ages were used as references. From here to the kings' period the time keeper just gives us two wide marks:

2668 Exodus 12

quote:
40: Now the sojourning of the children of Israel, who dwelt in Egypt, was 430 years.

Abraham, Isaac and Jacob were not children of Israel, therefore the holy writer is refering only to those who descendent with Jacob to Egypt beside Joseph and his children that were born in Egypt.

3148 1 Kings.6

quote:
1: And it came to pass in the 480 year after the children of Israel were come out of the land of Egypt, in the fourth year of Solomon's reign over Israel, in the month Zif, which is the second month, that he began to build the house of the LORD.

Between these two main marks others are given. The Old Testament didn't mark the years that ruled king Saul. One of the few dates given in the New Testament is one that was not given in the Old Testament, Act 13:21, the years that king Saul ruled over Israel. 1 King 2:10 tells us that king David ruled 40 years. So, 83 years before the building of the temple, Saul started ruling Israel: at year 3.148-83=3.065. David started to reign at year 3.105 and Solomon at year 3.145. In 2 Chronicles the timekeeper pinpoints the years that ruled the kings of Judah, starting at year 3.185 (16:13) and ending at year 3.578.

So, without any doubt from Adam to the deportation passed 3.578 years, the witness took care of writing those dates. The math used here is very simple and elemental that confounds nobody.

From Génesis 3:15 the Messiah had been waited by the people all over the world, in one or another, as we are informed of those who in the east saw his star of birth. The offices of these wise men were not visiting around the world mothers that were having babies. They were waiting for long this special star. The place where they came from was very far, because since they saw the star till they reach Jerusalem had run 2 years, as is declared. Angels of GOD announced his birthday. Simon waited to contemplate the savior. When Gabriel told to Daniel "from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be 7 weeks, and 62 weeks". This "unto the Messiah" refers the day when He was introduced into this world, as it is declared:

quote:
Hebrew 1:6 And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him
Luke 2:11 For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord. 2And this shall be a sign unto you; Ye shall find the babe wrapped in swaddling clothes, lying in a manger. 13And suddenly there was with the angel a multitude of the heavenly host praising God, and saying, 14Glory to God in the highest, and on earth peace, good will toward men.

But some have invented the day that John baptized him, in order to adjust the Bible to some archaeological finding, but this is a corruption, in which the Bible isn't the reference any longer.

The period of the Law
GOD gave the law to the sons of Jacob, as all the nations had (Hammurabi's law, the Romans' law, and others). In any other nation the police and other social forces care that people follows the law. But the sons of Jacob didn't have polices. GOD himself took care of the law, living within the sons of Jacob in a very special place commanded by himself, which was finished 2 years after leaving Egypt (Exodus 40:17). Therefore there was a very singular tent: the Tabernacle of GOD, which was his house, where He had a place for him alone, and places for his people. This Tabernacle was the heart of the walking nation, as it is declared in Exodus 40:34-38 and Numbers 9:15-22. When the 40 years of peregrination ended the Holy Tabernacle was erected in Silo (Joshua 18:1) which was replaced by a complex building (1 King 6 & 7 & 8) where the glory of GOD descended also (1 King 8:10-11). Certainly enough all nations had temples, gods, sacred laws, their feast, rites and so on. In these national things the sons of Jacob were not different to others nations. The thing in which not any other nation could equal the nation of the sons of Jacob is clearly expressed in Leviticus 16:

quote:

5 And he shall take of the congregation of the children of Israel two kids of the goats for a sin offering, and one ram for a burnt offering.
8 And Aaron shall cast lots upon the two goats; one lot for the LORD, and the other lot for the scapegoat. 9 And Aaron shall bring the goat upon which the LORD's lot fell, and offer him for a sin offering.
10 But the goat, on which the lot fell to be the scapegoat, shall be presented alive before the LORD, to make an atonement with him, and to let him go for a scapegoat into the wilderness.
15 Then shall he kill the goat of the sin offering, that is for the people, and bring his blood within the vail, and do with that blood as he did with the blood of the bullock, and sprinkle it upon the mercy seat, and before the mercy seat:
16 And he shall make an atonement for the holy place, because of the uncleanness of the children of Israel, and because of their transgressions in all their sins: and so shall he do for the tabernacle of the congregation, that remaineth among them in the midst of their uncleanness.
20 And when he hath made an end of reconciling the holy place, and the tabernacle of the congregation, and the altar, he shall bring the live goat:
21 And Aaron shall lay both his hands upon the head of the live goat, and confess over him all the iniquities of the children of Israel, and all their transgressions in all their sins, putting them upon the head of the goat, and shall send him away by the hand of a fit man into the wilderness: 22 And the goat shall bear upon him all their iniquities unto a land not inhabited: and he shall let go the goat in the wilderness.
23 And Aaron shall come into the tabernacle of the congregation, and shall put off the linen garments, which he put on when he went into the holy place, and shall leave them there:

The point here is that is the only law in the earth that treats about the SIN and the cleanness of the soul. In which the sins of the country were transferred to a goat (as our Lord Jesuchrist fulfilled taking in him the sins of the humanity). This is the expiation, but the cleanness was done through the bloods of other elected animals. All of this formed a unity with the Tabernacle, with the Temple or the House of God. All of the house of Israel could disappear, but while the House of God stood, the procedure could be fulfilled and get the forgiveness and reconciliation, contemplated in the Law. Nabuchedrezzer understood this very well: destroying the House of their God, as almost 400 years before understood Jeroboham (1 Kings 12:27), the Judahim will have not common place that gather them. Only by the Intervention of GOD the Judahim were not mixed with the other nations, except some of them (Ezra 10). The opposite was: building up the house of GOD, literally meant rebuilt Jerusalem, and from this the others cities, as the enemies of the Judahim understood (Ezra 4:21):

Now, give the commandment (an contra commandment) to cease the those men, and be not REBUILT THE CITY

Ezra 7 testifies us that Artaxerxe didn't say: "I give the commandment to restore and rebuild Jerusalem", but he commanded:

1. to visit Judah and Jerusalem (7:14)
2. to carry silver and gold.. for the HOUSE OF GOD (15 &16)
3. buy calves & lambs .. for offering in the HOUSE OF GOD
4. to restore accessories for the service in the HOUSE OF GOD (this was lacking in it)
5. and son

which is sealed with the words:

quote:
[23] Whatever is commanded by the God of the heavens, let it be carefully done for THE HOUSE OF GOD of the heavens; for why should there be wrath against the realm of the king and his sons?

Clearly enough the king Artaxerxes didn't give any commandment to restore and rebuilt Jerusalem, neither to restore or to build the House of God, because the House was being used already (5:15):

quote:
:” and THIS HOUSE was finished on the third day of the month Adar, which was in the sixth year of the reign of Darius the king”.

The initial commandment to restore and rebuild the House of God was given by GOD Himself to Cyrus, as is declared (1:1-4):

quote:
Yhvh the God of the heavens has given me all the kingdoms of the earth, and He has commanded me to build House(1) in Jerusalem(2) that is in Judah(3)....

The command given to Cyrus to build Jerusalem had been decided long time before:

Isaiah 44

quote:

26: That confirmeth the word of his servant, and performeth the counsel of his messengers; that saith to Jerusalem, Thou shalt be inhabited; and to the cities of Judah, Ye shall be built, and I will raise up the decayed places thereof:
27: That saith to the deep, Be dry, and I will dry up thy rivers:
28: That saith of Cyrus, He is my shepherd, and shall perform all my pleasure: even saying to Jerusalem, Thou shalt be built; and to the temple, Thy foundation shall be laid.

Isaiah 45

quote:

1: Thus saith the LORD to his anointed, to Cyrus, whose right hand I have
holden, to subdue nations before him; and I will loose the loins of kings, to open before him the two leaved gates; and the gates shall not be shut;
13: I have raised him up in righteousness, and I will direct all his ways: he shall build my city, and he shall let go my captives, not for price nor reward, saith the LORD of hosts.

(6:14) Built and finished, for the COMMANDMENT OF GOD OF ISRAEL, for commandment of Cyrus, of Darius, and Artaxerxes king of Persia (no king of Mede is included)

Watch: the commandment of Cyrus, Darius and Artaxerxes is just one (reaffirmed each time), separated from that of God. It is important to locate these kings:

The order of the kings of Persia given by Herodutus is: Cyrus, Cambyses (called Artaxerxes by Ezra), Esmerdys, Darius and Xerxes. Josephus said Artaxerxes (called Ahasuerus by Ezra) followed his father Xerxes. Herodutus says that Cyrus reigned 29 years, Cambyses 7 years and 5 months, the magician Esmerdys reigned 7 months (adding up 8 years) and king Darius 36 years. This means that “the six day of the reign of Darius the king” leads to 42-43 years since the Commandment given to Cyrus was signed. But after the building was finished some accessories still was in the power of the kings of Persia, which were restored by king Artaxerxes (7:19) and other details, which was signed up after his 6th year and before his 7th year (7:8-9). All of this sum up 49 years, or 7 weeks as was announced by Gabriel: 7 weeks + 62 weeks.

Zerubabel was the first leader assigned by the king Cyrus in his first year. In the seventh month of this year, the first group lived in Jerusalem (Ezra 3:1).They began to set forward the work for House of God. The king Cyrus could not help them because he was a conquer in far lands, and he was busy all the time in the battle fields, until he died fighting against Tomyris queens of the masagetas (according to the Greek historian Herodotus). Cambyses took his place for 7 years and 5 months. He was unfriendly to the Judahim and did not allow them to continue their jobs. Ezra 6:14 mentions another Artaxerxes, which is Xerxes. In the second year of Darius Zerubabel continued building the house of God (3:8). After king Darius came his son Xerxes. In the first month of his 7th year he sent Ezra leading another group of Judahim, who came into Jerusalem on the fifth month. In the 20th year Xerxes sent Nehemiah and other group. He finished up the wall, which was the last thing Gabriel said that should be built: “.. and the wall even in troublous times”. Josephus said it was finished at the 28th year of Xerxes. Nehemiah said that he was responsible until the year 32 of this king. So, from the Commandment given to Cyrus till the building of the city there were around 100 years:


1. Cyrus -Zerubabel
Passed 43 years (29+8+6)
2. Darius - Zerubabel temple
Passed 37 years (36+7-6)
3. Ezra- Xerxes offering
Passed 21 years (28-7)
4. Nehemiah - Xerxes walls

So, from the commandment given by YHWH to king Cyrus to start restoring and building the holy city, which started in its heart: the temple, till the Messiah was begotten there are 483 years.

Very Important Note:
The calendar that GOD follows in the Tanakh and in the New Testament isn't the Jew Calendar, because this is not precise as it is declared in Joshua 10:13, Job 3:6 and 2 kings 20:11. Genesis 1 testifies us that the Calendar of GOD has never depended upon the sun, moon or stars. His Calendar isn't corruptible.

This span of 4 generation (60 weeks) between two remarkable events is not new, but a constant in the math of God. Let's see:

The division of the earth in continents, seas and islands occurred near Peleg was born (Gen 10:25). 481 years after Jacob left Canaan and went into Egypt. 470 years after his descendants were returning to Canaan. Some 447 years later the House of God was built, and destroyed around 440 years after. This is followed by the sequence of the 23s years, until Cyrus came, as Isaiah 44:28 & 45:1 vision him. From him the mark is placed when the Messiah is entered as the Son of Man, 483 after. (Remember GOD has not changed the generation determined in Genesis 6:3, which is established to 120 years. The generations are counted as follows: first 0-120, second 121-240, third 241-360, four 361-480, and so on. This is not a hidden message, but it is clearly declared. GOD doesn't speak in codes as many are trying to falsely teach. GOD told to Abraham: "in the fourth generation your descendant will return here", Gen 15:16, as happened when they entered Canaan -430+40. GOD has been using a period of 60 weeks (plus some years) to pinpoint great events. Between two great marks there are other marks, for instance, from the two 480 marks, there are the marks of the judges. Nothing in the Holy Bible is written randomly.

Babylonians destroyed the Solomon's Temple, but not the Law because the Judahim were gathered in Babylon. The king of the Medes was friendly to the Judahim. Most of the kings of Persian helped to restore and build the temple. 504 years after (483-49+70) the Romans put end to the long period of the Law started by Moses, destroying the temple, the city and scattering the Judahim. Daniel never said that the roman or the others domination would be political. He clearly speaks of spiritual kingdoms, controlled by spiritual powers (Daniel 10:12-13,20).

GOD showed to Nebuchadnezzar the five big powers from his to the Messianic that would rule the humans. Between the fourth and the fifth there is not one. The fourth is the roman domination that has developed many ways to manage the power, as ruling through second, third persons and institutions, which is very powerful tool of hidden intention. The Catholic Institution is one tool of the spiritual roman organization that will be destroyed as she finishes her job (Rev 17:16). The reader must understand that the other organizations (the Babylonian, the Greek, the Persian) didn't disappear, because the same spiritual beings are regrouped as happen with human commissions, where participate the same persons into different role.

Dear readers, The Holy Spirit has given me unto here. If this writing can help others, please make the grammar corrections and take a print copy to them. I invite you to read my preview posting the 45 days of the Great Tribulation. http://eliyah.com/forum2/Forum1/HTML/000277.html

God Bless you all. Fathers and mothers take care of your sons and daughters. Husband love and respect your wife, and wife be saint before God, your husband and the society. The human soul has a very special place that is for praising God. Satan and his demons try to put garbage in it, through music, hidden messages and other techniques. Be very careful with the music, pictures, comics and things like that. If this place is ill, then the person will direct unconsciously bad adoration to God, this is very danger. Don't forget the rod of correction. Review the words of the songs that your sing. Other important region in our soul has to do with sex. Take care of dressing as a woman of God. The Woman shape is a very powerful instrument for sexual excitation, Satan and his demons are using it in order to make the saints sin silently in their heart, the industry of porno knows this very well. Please don't consume the so called "Natural" foods and medicine, unless that yourself cultivate the plants. Passive Meditation, vegetarianism and those teaching belong to another Gospel, contrary to the teaching of the Bible. Remember: we are in midst of a very strong spiritual war. Satan and his demons know that their time has shortened drastically

Brothers and Sister, pray for me and for my family, I believe in the pray of the saints..

Homework for the readers
How many years there are from the First Adam to the Second Adam?

With Love
José Cadena

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