posted 11-27-1999 06:38 AM           

"Anointed One" a title that was held by many Middle-Eastern sacrifical gods.
ATTIS,ADONIS,ADONAI,TAMMUZ,OSIRIS (are just some examples)
derived from Oriental cults of the sacred marriage.

In the east the god's lingam or erect penis of his statue was anointed with holy oil
(Greek chrism) for easier penetration of his bride,the goddess impersonated by one of the
temple virgins.

Before anointing with oil, the god's phallus was ofen reddened to the color of life with
pigment,wine or blood,specifically, the menstrual blood of his bride.
Because kingship once depended on the sacred marrage,anointing became the official rite
of investiture for surrogate kings----it carried the promise of godhood.

Among the pagans the temple virgin deflowering herself on the god's carved phallus
would place a wreath of flowers on his head at the same time,
Eventually the anointing of the phallus was displaced to the head because the marriage
rite was omitted from public sacifices of the savior.redeemer,son of god,etc.

Among the Essenes a CHRISTOS was a priest,specifically designated Sin Bearer or
Redeemer ne who atoned for others sin.

Among the Slavs,CHRISTOS or Krstnik meant a sacrfical hero and alsoan "accursed
one" due to the ancient practice of laying a formal cure on the Sin Beareer before he was
sacrified.
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There is No such word as "CHRIST" in HEBREW it's "MASHIACH"
in Hebrew translated as "MESSIAH "in English.
This word/name comes from the Greek "CHRESTOS"

Did you know that the Latins worship a god called "CHRISTOS HELIOS"
"CHRIST the SUN"?
In the Vatian recently uncovered in the tomb of Julii is
a mosaic of "CHRISTOS HELIOS".

There were also gods by the name "CHRESTON","CHRESTOS"
Even in the Greek language the word "Messias" is
a transliteration for the Hebrew word "Mashiach".
So what's up with this "CHRIST" stuff ?
Mashiach,(hebrew), Messias, (greek), Messiah, (english)!
You can call me Anti-Christ day of the week !
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[This message has been edited by Don (edited 11-27-1999).]

posted 11-28-1999 05:24 AM           

You bet!

(Edward Philip.The Art of Tantia.New York Graphic Society,1973 page29)

(Scott,George Ryley.Phallic Worship page 167)

(Leland Charles Godfrey Gypsy Sorcery and Fortune Telling 1962 page145)

(The Hebrew Dictionary)

(Koster C.J. Come Out of Her My People)

The post on Christos are direct quotes from these books!

posted 11-30-1999 09:51 AM           

I'll see if I a can do better!

CHRISTOS

"Anointed One"( Strong's Greek Dictionary #5548.page99) a title that was hold by many
Middle-Eastern sacrifical gods.
ATTIS,ADONIS,ADONAI,TAMMUZ,OSIRIS(Christianity and Mythology.page 331) (are
just some examples) Serapis and Mithras were called Anointed One also(Come Out of
Her my People.pages 70 &71)
derived from Oriental cults of the sacred marriage.

In the east the god's lingam or erect penis of his statue was anointed with holy oil
(Greek chrism) for easier penetration of his bride,the goddess impersonated by one of the
temple virgins.

Before anointing with oil, the god's phallus was ofen reddened to the color of life with
pigment,wine or blood,specifically, the menstrual blood of his bride.
(Edward Philip. "The art of Tania. New york Graphic Society,1973. page 29)

Because kingship once depended on the sacred marrage,anointing became the official rite
of investiture for surrogate kings----it carried the promise of godhood.
(Scott,George Ryley.Phallic Worship page167)

Among the pagans the temple virgin deflowering herself on the god's carved phallus
would place a wreath of flowers on his head at the same time,
Eventually the anointing of the phallus was displaced to the head because the marriage
rite was omitted from public sacifices of the savior.redeemer,son of god,etc.
(Legman G."Rationale of The Dirty Joke" 1968.page 661)
Among the Essenes a CHRISTOS was a priest,specifically designated Sin Bearer or
Redeemer ne who atoned for others sin.
(Pfeifer Charles F. the Dead Sea Scrolls and the Bible 1969 page133)

Among the Slavs,CHRISTOS or Krstnik meant a sacrfical hero and alsoan "accursed
one" due to the ancient practice of laying a formal cure on the Sin Beareer before he was
sacrified
(Leland Charles Godfrey Gypsy Sorcery and Fortune Telling 1962 page145)
-----
There is No such word as "CHRIST" in HEBREW it's "MASHIACH"
in Hebrew translated as "MESSIAH "in English.
(Look in any Hebrew Dictionary)
This word/name comes from the Greek "CHRESTOS"
Did you know that the Latins worship a god called "CHRISTOS HELIOS"
"CHRIST the SUN"?
In the Vatian recently uncovered in the tomb of Julii is
a mosaic of "CHRISTOS HELIOS".
There were also gods by the name "CHRESTON","CHRESTOS"
(Koster C.J. Come Out of Her My People page 13,17,19)
Even in the Greek language the word "Messias" is
a transliteration for the Hebrew word "Mashiach".
So what's up with this "CHRIST" stuff ?
Mashiach,(hebrew), Messias, (greek), Messiah, (english)!
You can call me Anti-Christ day of the week !
----
Is that any better,Lou?

posted 11-30-1999 11:05 AM         

Remember any time you write a word in a non-native script it is a transliteration.

JustBill

posted 12-01-1999 06:08 AM           

I am SO CONFUSED at least about your post anyway!

So what are you saying Bro.?

posted 12-02-1999 09:05 PM            

In my humble opinion, I believe that the Hebrew "HaMaschiach" can lawfully be translated into English as "the Anointed One" because it is not a name but a title (actually the word is a passive verb form). Why translate something already translated into Greek as "Xhristos" and then take that Greek word and transliterate it into English as "Christ." The obvious reason doing it that way is because "Christ" is Greek. Check any of the early church father's writings and you will see that about 80 per cent of the time they use the title "christ" as a proper noun insted of "Iesous." The early church fathers loved the name of "Christ" far more than "Jesus." The noun "christ" in the Greek culture is meaningless because they never anointed anyone with oil for any public office like the Israelites did.

I think that if the church fathers would have done correct translations, the followers of "the Anointed One" would be called "Anointians" in English. Although, "for me and my house we serve Yahweh" said Yahushua ben Nun. The word "anointed" already existed in the English language when the English speaking Christians decided to go for "Christ." Very few Christians would love to be called "Jesuits," and much less "Anointians." I wonder why? I can't get over the fact that they are like the early church fathers. They don't seem to love the name of "Jesus" as much as "Christ." They named themselves after a title that can be atributed to anyone in any culture. I wonder why. I think that they do it to shut out the sacred name of Yahweh...

Anyway, Don, thank you for the quotes. Now I got something to go by.

Shalom aleichem,
Lou